102 | It's a Vibe: Manifesting Through Music with Able Heart

Speaker 1: 0:01

Yo guys, you're able to do anything your heart desires, and in today's show we learn exactly what that means from the one and only Abel Heart, the most positive rock star to walk this earth. We talk about everything from manifestation to the power of music, to time travel and dinosaurs. It's a beautiful thing. All right you don't want to miss a second. This is a great one. I'm really excited for you to hear this. This is part one of my conversation with the one and only Abel Heart and his mustache. You know what time it is. Let's do this thing. Welcome to Under the Radar folks. I am super pumped for today's guest. We got Abel Heart on the show today. Producer, artist, manifesting wizard Dude. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 2: 1:00

Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. I love doing these, so I appreciate you having me Seriously.

Speaker 1: 1:05

Yeah, dude, I should have added to the intro mustache man.

Speaker 2: 1:09

I was just gonna say new mustache man.

Speaker 1: 1:12

This is my first time.

Speaker 2: 1:13

So anyone that's not into mustaches, I apologize ahead of time that you're gonna have to watch this. You're better probably just turning the video off. You're just listening. But if you are here, you go.

Speaker 1: 1:25

Oh man, I've reserved some time to particularly speak to the mustache. I must ask you a question, right? So, my dude, the first one I want to get into. I want to get right into it. It's been a minute since I've been able to talk to people about the power of frequency, minded music and the healing nature of music, and a quote comes to mind. I'm gonna read out that, after doing a deep dive on your history and such man and knowing what I know about being a musician wellness coach, oftentimes, like your, music is so bright, it's so uplifting, it's so fun and it just gets people into the vibe, right, myself included. That's what really turned me on to. When I first heard it. I was like dude, dude's got a vibe. This is cool. I know from my experience, both personally and as a professional in the industry, that there's a quote the darkest nights mean you see the start the most, if you're familiar with K-Flay.

Speaker 2: 2:22

No, I've never heard of that.

Speaker 1: 2:23

That's phenomenal, I'm gonna go check that song out. That was one of the songs that like, when I was in a really dark space, that was one of the songs that like, ah, I get it. And because your music is so positive, because I know that usually you know that the light usually comes from darkness, what was that shadow life for you, dude? You say the shadow light, like what was the darkness for you.

Speaker 2: 2:47

I've never heard of that term before. I like that, Um, yeah, I mean it was a lot, without like making this like a 20 hour long podcast and trying to sum it up yeah, I mean it was, I was law. I mean the bottom line is I was just lost. You know, I didn't feel like I had purpose and this is after. So you mentioned briefly, um, you know, training and comp and that's that sort of stuff. Athletics, that was my, my everything since I was young. So that's all I wanted to do, that's all that's going to do the rest of my life, nothing else. And very narrow minded, Mind you, I was very young, but also like that's what I was great at and it made sense and I could just, you know, I was like where's come the worst, I'll just live in a cabin at the top of a hill and I'll be able to snowboard every single day. That's it. You know, like I loved it, Like purest joy, which, when you really look at the simplicity of that, it's like that's actually phenomenal, Like that's all you need and like you're purely internally fulfilled and happy. Mind you, it was not that deep for me. You know, so young and look like, yeah, I like the snowboard, Um, but, but so I. I so, after competing for a while, that's I mean, it's a whole long story of competition and how I got into that just came to me naturally. Really, I was very I guess you could say talented and we could get on. We could get on the topic of talented, uh, throughout this I have I have a weird thing with the word talent when it comes to music. It didn't come naturally to me. Like I was just saying, snowboarding did just made sense. Anything athletics or that was like physical, just made sense and I could do it. Uh, and that's how it was for snowboarding. So I competed, since I was very young, maybe like four or five, traveled, was very fortunate to be able to travel around the world and do so, and and then one day, you know, just like any sort of sport, but definitely extreme sports that comes with, you know, injury, which is the way it is risk, I would be a shorter, shorter yeah. So you know, yeah, I mean it would be a shorter list to tell you the bones that I haven't broken, um, but the one that put me out when I was, when I was, my timeframe back then is so, so all over the place, but I want to say around 15, 16, maybe like 15 is when it put me out I fractured my lower back and that was the one that, like, really took me out for a long time. Just because, I mean, just because it's my back and and it can sense it took me out for so long, the, the level in that interim of me having the, you know, rehabilitate my, just my health, my fitness and all that the sport progressed so fast. You know it's not like it is now. People are doing like quadruple court. You know freaking 1260s, and back then it was like the 900 was like the holy moly. You know, yeah, yeah, but I feel like it progressed that much in such a short amount of time that, paired with the fact that it was now, I was riding with a team that helped like fund and support people that didn't necessarily have the money because traveling is expensive, um, and my parents obviously did everything they possibly could, but, uh, definitely after the injury and, and you know, have like all the hospital stuff, um, it was I kind of, I think at that point too, around 15, it started to catch up to me Like my parents are trying to do this and then if I go back they're going to put out all this money because I stopped riding for the team and all of these. So I think I took a lot of that weight on trying to look back and diagnose the things that were very subconscious back then. It weren't, I wasn't consciously aware of a lot of this, but I was starting to become a person and so since I really point being, since I had lost what I love most in this world externally, I didn't make that, that call that choice right. But because that's what I felt, like my purpose which that's the main key word takeaway here, my purpose here on planet earth, was taken away and I no longer have that, I say I got the case of the, the. I don't want to curse, but like the efforts you know, it's like, well then, f, this F that you know, like F, this F that I'm not going to do, I don't care like, I'm just going to be a part of the 27 club, you know, and that's what it is, and it sounds very morbid, but again, I think, paired with the fact that I was young and and I was hurt, you know, like I don't want to make this a boohoo story because it's really not if I would have just sucked it the F up and understood and realized like, and my mom would love my parents, I'm so grateful for them. They've always been super supportive, even if they couldn't thought or do think. This was like go after your dreams, do whatever it is. But you know, my mom would always say you know, just like you know, there's not just one thing that you're good at. You could do anything. And I never wanted to look at that. I was like I don't want to do that. Now, mind you, my dad was in music my whole life. My mom, since I was a baby, would bring me in the clubs while he would play, but it was never something that I wanted to do. You know, he's also a hundred percenter, so he makes master's produce sounds as I engineer sings right. So, please, guitar, does all that right. You got a mustache, though. I wonder if he's had a mustache. He better have dude, come on, come on, come on, I would think so. I mean, he was like 70s, 80s man, so I feel like that was around that time, right, he's like Starsky for sure. Yeah, you know what? I wonder? If he sees my social media lately, maybe he does. I feel like he would have called me, but so probably not. But when he does see it and he sees the mustache, I feel like he's going to be super proud.

Speaker 1: 7:59

You know, I feel like I'm going to go Like he's got a hundred percenter. Does he have a mustache? I don't know.

Speaker 2: 8:05

That's true. So he's only a 99 percenter. I got to beat. I got to beat. I appreciate that. Yeah, it's looking at a different angle, right, that's true, yeah, yeah, hopefully I get the call. But no, he, I grew up, you know, around music my whole life, but it was never. I think. I always say, when you're so close to something you tend to neglect to see, you know the value or the possibilities and something, it's just there. Yeah, I would always try. He would always try and get me to like come down and record something. I was so insecure though I did it a couple of times and I just remember getting so frustrated I was like no, that stinks, you know, like that's the worst take ever and like don't even play that, don't listen to it. My dad would be like that was amazing. Yeah, you know, even though it really wasn't. You know he's just being a good dad, but yeah, it was too. Everybody came down was I was too insecure. So I had the case of the efforts and my mentality was, you know, the 27 club. It is what it is. I'm going to like do whatever I want and experience because, mind you, I didn't. I didn't go to like normal high school we had with part of the team, there was a traveling tutor. So I didn't have like the normal high school experience. I'd go for like maybe like half a semester or semester and then I would travel. So I didn't really have, I didn't have friends like that. I'd be the kid. That was which I felt so much pressure by this. But because, again, the Olympics was the goal for me and that and that sport, so I felt so much pressure. I'd go in for like that half a semester or whatever. And then people that I didn't really know they weren't really my friends but I kind of knew but I was like, oh, this, he's going to the Olympics. You know he's going to the Olympics, he's going to leave and whatever. So I always felt so much pressure. But again, a lot of my fear behind so much stuff and a lot of things that we'll get into and how, uh, like my music even evolved or like we're even having this conversation to be able to reach a mass amount, was overcoming fears.

Speaker 1: 9:52

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 9:53

It's like it's everything you know. But that's what it was. So I got caught up to answer to world, to round circle, like fully, try and answer your question. Uh, I got caught up with the wrong people, places and things because of also the things that I now talk about. Uh, the frequency. You know I was in mind, you for sure it was valid, but I'm very millid, which is probably the training and snowboarding. I'm very military mentality, I don't, I don't project that or put that out. Uh, a lot on social media I am to myself. I don't do that in particular because for one I know that's not everyone's I want to be able to connect and resonate with as many people as possible and I've been able to learn myself I couldn't fake it. You know like I am who I am on social media. Uh, you mentioned earlier like a persona. Now it's really just fully me. Like I feel I've never felt more myself on social media ever in my life than I do right now. Like I the same week we could get off this call and not be like I'm this way. You know I filmed the silly stuff. Humor has changed my life. You know, like I love, I love putting stuff out this like that and really it's again breaking the fear of all that, because if you look at any of the stuff and some of the stuff you touched on or mentioned earlier, I would never have felt I would have went in the street and dance with my shirt off or whatever the case is. You know much fear and I didn't I mean. Point being, you know I, I've been doing music, music now over a decade, like close to 14 years, which is unbelievable and it definitely dates me at this point. But you know, I, I didn't do any of that for that amount of time up until recently, within the last year. And shout out I don't know if you talked to Charles, my manager, but and we grew up together, right, he was never going to, it was never. We grew up when he used to film and the stuff that we do now, and I remember him always being like well, like you got to do this, I'm like, I'm not doing that. Yeah, as a kid. Just too many fears really. Just like human, the evolution of human growth and me going through things and like coming out on the other side and understanding something different than the way I thought things were. I don't want to make that like too deep, but that's just kind of the evolution of right human beings and then we say hindsight is 2020. So so, yeah, he, he, he was a big, he definitely was a big part within this last like year, year and a half, like stepping into that, I think, because I never had anybody in my corner. So after our snowboarding I'm trying not to jump around here after snowboarding I went back to school, had the case of the efforts started associating with people, places and things that weren't the best because of the frequency I was in and uh, and yeah, I mean, it was continuous rock bottoms. It was just rock bottom after rock bottom. I struggled, you know, with drugs, depression, I feel like most of the things that you hear a lot of people struggle with before something big yeah amazing happens right, and it's. It's like. It's such a simple thing to say you know to someone and hope that that gives them hope, but when you're in that place it's like you know you like you have to it's, it's stinks and I wish no one had to go through it. And the truth of the matter is you don't have to have that like external trauma, like traumatic experience, to have a great change in your life, because that, unfortunately, for a lot of people, that's what has to happen. You know it's like a diagnosis or you lose someone or something happens and then you're like, oh my gosh, like I need to get my stuff together and I need to go to the gym, or I need to do this and I need to reconnect with this person and do this. I need to really go after my goals. I have to quit this job. I can't work this nine to five for the rest of my life and turn out like X, y and Z, you know so, uh, it doesn't. You don't have to reach a traumatic experience or have a traumatic experience to have that change, you know. But I know a lot of people do it. I did, you know, like, unfortunately, and I had people in my corner that were telling me I didn't, you know, I didn't have to go through it, and it's just kind of the evolution and everyone, everyone's evolution journey is different. But I don't want people to hear that and take away like Because that could hold you back. When you realize you're so different than anybody else, that could hold you back, then who you supposed to relate to and understand where to move next? You know, and hear the words up because we're still like, oh, we're so different. This person had it like this, but this person grew up with parents that had x, y and zI. Never, I never felt that way, you know, like I never Again. I'm very fortunate for my parents mentality, but I never grew up, though Like I never had that, that thought like oh so, and so grew up with like parents that had a bunch of money, even though that was my experience, you know, but I could still look at them, even though, yeah, that would be awesome, yeah, yeah, you know, like he gets his ride, his parents, bentley, or whatever the case, yeah, but I just I think I knew from training that that would hold me back mentality wise, you know, of course.

Speaker 1: 14:46

Yeah, so almost like you got to put walls up and and just do, do you right, like in the minute that you found it. You know, just watching the evolution from you know, an innocent bystander as I am, I'm sitting here going like dude this, and a lot of people don't deep dive into the actual artist life though, but it's, it is. So I love that you touched on, like how the military, the discipline being really really Not necessarily maybe hard on yourself, but but being like looking for a hundred percent, looking for like a hundred and ten percent, always, always looking to be better than than where you were yesterday, right, and that's a, that's a big, big thing. I think a lot of people Trouble have trouble with and this may touch on your point with with talent, because I'm very similar in in my belief of that word, because people read you and they see okay, kid buses back, has a woohoo Goes, oh, maybe I should change and be happy and then things will get better, and then he gets a break and now he's famous. Oh, okay, cool, and it's not that way, right, like that was a lot of hard work, right? 2019 brings you into the world with with songlet, right, and a Lot of people that don't do and they they are in a negative Mindset, they're in a victim mentality. They look at that and they say, okay, cool, well, you just got his break because you know the Joe Bros right like and anybody who it reads into it actually knows that I came with a lot more hard work and trials and tribulations for years. By the sounds of it, right and and I mean Overcoming insecurity in yourself as an artist, overcoming insecurity as yourself in a person talk to me about what your thoughts are with that talent, and I mean the song that did it. That looks like it really kind of gave you that confidence, was green light, which is what you, what you put down for for the, for the Joe Bros, which we'll get back into Later on. So, like, how did that hole? How did talent versus hard work? Was it a break? Like what's? What are your thoughts on that? And and what do you tell those artists that are sitting there with their nose up in the air at you?

Speaker 2: 17:00

Yeah, I mean when, when, when, pre. Well, for one, I try not to Listen to that because, again, I know if someone really feels that way, it's just something they're going through, or they see something that they also want, that they don't have, so then they feel that sort of resentment and that's. You know, I can't I'm not anyone's parent and I can't change that and I know for one I'm not gonna allow that to affect. My energy used to be different a long time ago. I was always trying to make everyone happy and I wanted everyone to feel amazing and ever, and everyone not to be offended by anything that I said and I was. You know it's just a happy go-la, but that it took me down, you know, a hole of just misery and then I became a worst person around anyone else. So it wasn't, it wasn't positive any sense. But when preparation meets opportunity because that's what it was, it was opportunity you create your own luck. I don't care like, for sure it's like the 1% that I feel. Like a lot of these conversations I love we talk about military mentality. I'm very to myself, or have been historically. I'm not much anymore Because when things change, jordan Peterson sense Become a monster, then learn how to tame it. That's the hardest part, by the way. Learn how to tame it. That's what I've been doing this last year. It's changed my life. They'll learn how to take apart has changed my life, but I was a monster for extendedly too long and it was just not so. I was very David Goggins, I'm sure, if you know who he is I mean? like to it to a tee, not that I like I Found him after I was already that way, you know. I was like, oh my gosh, you're like this guy gets me. I was like, yes, this is how it should be and this is how it is. But I didn't spend my time with anyone, you know, I was by myself, oh, like literally like a hundred percent of the time, even when I was like I lived. I lived in a shed, I live in a storm cellar. I lived in like all different random places and then I lived with my sister but like I wouldn't and then a couple other buddies in a house and then there was a shed. I was just living it and I Didn't spend my time like they would have parties and stuff. I just I wasn't. That's not why I was there. You know like, and that's great that they wanted to do that and that was totally fine. I love them to this day, I love those guys. But that wasn't my mentality and that wasn't why I was there and I knew that if it didn't work out like, my parents were gonna be able so support me to do any of this and it was only gonna be on me, everything was gonna be on me. So, therefore, I had to make the choice to do everything necessary in order to get to where I wanted to be. It was that simple right. So I needed to make the schedule, the daily routines, and become the monster right that I wanted to be, and I knew that if I wanted like the future me, I wanted to be that I. If that's the case, I I had to become someone completely different, because the way that I was living my life was not working right. But I had to go through rock bottom after Rhyla's earlier, like we were talking about. I had to go to rock bottom, rock bottom, each one getting worse and worse, to realize like, oh my gosh, like I am the cause and the effect of all my life decisions, and I'm the one because, as human beings, I talk about this all the time, because it needs to be like, reiterated, as human beings, we have the best excuses. They're so good, they're like, oh god, because a lot of times are valid. You know, yeah, like 90, almost 90% of the time they're valid, yeah, and there's like that's what holds us back the most, though no one else. It just it's so easy to say someone else is holding us back from the things that we want most in this world, and if it was different then it would be like that. But it's like, what does that do? It's just wasting time, and time is the most valuable asset any of us have here on planet Earth. So Once you realize these things, kind of stepping into your new, fullest self, it's like, okay, these are the things I have to do in order to become a monster. But then the taming apart, yeah, was the trickiest for me because, going to your point. So I had bounced around, I used to walk everywhere, I ride my bike and right before, right before the song, that thing and the Jonas Brothers things happen, that week I was supposed to move out to California, move from California. I was there for a couple years. Nothing happened. You know, like, career-wise, anything worth like writing home about? Like I learned a lot? Yeah, you know I didn't, and I the project able heart. Before that I produced only so I learned how to sing on YouTube and how to write, you know, so I did the same thing that I learned how to produce. So I learned that. You know, I like I grinded and I understood how to do that, but I Felt like I needed to do Something, that if I left California which I didn't want to, you know it was expensive I had the money. Then, yeah, that I feel like, oh, like I did something. You know, like I put out a part of me because, going back to what you were talking about earlier, some of the older catalog, if you go all the way down to the beginning of my music, it was completely opposite. Yeah, then it is now and I left it up there intentionally, yeah, because you know I could just take it down, be like, hey, oh, I make his happy music and it's positive and it's, but but that was never even from the jump. That was never my full picture. I was like I want it to be genuine. These are the things that I've gone through, I'm going through, I've gone through and I've experienced and I want to put it out there in hopes that someone else may also resonate with it, just like you said that lyric earlier, which was phenomenal, that then resonated with you. Yeah, right, I don't know the tonality, tonality of the song that you referenced, but my stuff was very dark and it went hand-in-hand with a lot of the feelings that I was also having. Frequency wise, right, you know, I run I don't say ironically, I per I by doing that, even though I wasn't going through and living those experiences again. I was just writing about what I did, yeah, you know, and what I went through and how I felt, because a lot of that was glorification, a lot of, a lot of negative things. If you go back into the older music, but to realize, right, when you lose something, what you love most in this world, right, it's like Most people will tell you, or a lot of people and definitely historically, you have a drug problem. You ever drink a problem or a gambling problem, sex problem, shopping problem, like, none of that is the problem. No, you know it's not the easy thing when you want to hear you're saying drugs are a problem. I'll tell you what jokes were my temporary salute. If I didn't have, if I didn't have any of that stuff, I wouldn't be here. I could guarantee you that, right, there's no way like coping me. No, no, I'm not saying that People should go do that because it's gonna help you cope. That's not what I'm saying. No, right, it's a temporary solution to a permanent problem. A permanent problem being a spiritual malady, a spiritual malady being a void, a Lack that you're feeling on, the feeling on the inside that you're looking to fulfill externally shopping, drugs, gambling, whatever it is yeah, right, and it's like well, how do I do that If I don't want to grab on these things externally to fulfill it, because it's only temporary and it's not sustainable? You know, it's like the same thing you always hear, like if you take this drug or you do this or you drink so much, you're gonna need like tenfold more later on this right, it's unsustainable and it's never the, it's never the same as the first time you did it. It's just the way it is right, yeah. So if you know that, you're like, okay, well, the only way to fulfill that is internally, or like hell, a frick. Do I feel something internally with the way that I feel, enter, there's no way. Yeah, right, and that's the journey and the evolution of what I spoke on earlier of Us human beings, you know, but it's starting to deep dive into this information and people. I mean, like I said, I was by myself, literally almost a hundred percent of the time, and the people on the internet became my friends. It may sound silly, but it is what it is the dr Joe's, the Mel Robbins, that Ed, my let's, the Jay Shetty's, that, like I could go on a list of them. Yeah, that I still Watch today.

Speaker 1: 24:01

You know funny that hey.

Speaker 2: 24:04

You know it's amazing. So but yeah, I mean so that had happened. So I was a week leading up. I was like, okay, I need to do something. So I, I Met the one kid that I met out in Los Angeles when I first moved there. I reached out to him. I was like, bro, I want to shoot a music video. Do you like know anybody? He, my buddy, shout out Johnny. He like knows everybody buddy in LA. And I just happened to meet him, you know, and Nothing just happens by chance, by the way. But he reached out to a buddy of his. He's like let me see if my videographer can shoot something. Blah, blah, blah. And he sent him the music. And this was the old stuff, it was like the drugs EP, yeah. And he was like, bro, he's like I'll do this for free. I didn't have any money, you know. He said so. He said he's like I'll do this. Shout out, alex drinks Phenomenal. And he was like I'll do this for free. This is his first part. Like I want to do it. Like when does he want to do it? And I was like, okay, let's do it. Like tonight, I'm very much like I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do it right now. We're gonna do it. Yeah, awesome, very much like that. And so so we linked and I was like what, what do you like? What do you need for me? He's like, well, just like, send me like the treatment that's written out. I was like I don't know how freaking ready treatment. So I just went on Google, like learn how to write a treatment, put everything together then send it to him, probably like I don't know, like like 15 half hour, yes, right away. He's like oh my gosh, did you just like do this right now? I think it's a fool. I mean, it was a full thing. I was like, yeah, you ready to go? So, so, so. Then I hit him up. He's okay, we need to get another girl to like an actress for one of the things. So I hit up my buddy again. He's like okay, I found this other girl. So we got it and then pop up, up, up, up. And then the next day we went out. She found the spot and which is funny because ironically, it was like we were looking for really abandoned, broken down motels and ironically, it's much harder to Like to be allowed in them, because if you go up and it's just like, they're like what are you gonna do here? You know, like we're trying to get out something. It's really weird, anyway, I don't even know I brought that up. But so we shot everything and then I was like I was like Got all the footage. I had it all like a hard drive. I was like, oh my gosh, like I don't know how to edit. I don't know, and editing is if, if not, the most expensive part. I was like I don't even know anyone that could edit. And, on top of that, how long is that gonna take? Yeah, I'm leaving this this next week. So I was like, eff it. You know, I just went into a bunch of debt, took, like ordered a computer and had it like like built Through them, and I just ordered it, took out a bunch of debt and then stayed up for three nights straight, because it was that week. I stayed up for three nights straight and Learn how to just Google YouTube, how to use Final Cut, you know, and edit is the whole video and then put it out, you know, and I was just like this, you know, because I've been up, yeah, two hours later.

Speaker 1: 26:43

Oh, yeah, losing it.

Speaker 2: 26:44

I did it, put it out and, mind you, my goal behind it. I just wanted to. We talked about the universe. I just wanted to. I just want to, like, put out, you know, that feeling and this is what I went through and I hope it resonates with someone. But I know that it's also like a way of me venting and being able to express the way that I feel inside without actually carrying through these acts. Again, right, it's like a release. I did it, put it out and it got, I believe, like literally 74 views. I'd my intention wasn't to go viral, you know, it's just to put it out into the universe. 74 views, mind you, that week. Yeah, one out of those 74 views, right before I'm about to leave, it was someone at Universal NBC. You can't even make that up. Do you know? How do you make that up? I mean, and and everything. Yeah, it's and everything. I just spoke about the oh my gosh, I did this and I had the break. I, that was my life like that. That wasn't, it wasn't. It wasn't like oh my gosh, I had to do this like I was very David Goggins if anyone doesn't know who that is, I feel like everyone does at this point, yeah, which is very military. This is how this I'm gonna do, this I'm gonna, but unfortunately, what I didn't know for a long time and what really held me back, and that I will say that I wish that I would have changed. For anyone that is either in that mentality or is like striving to, to be consistent with, like getting things done and Keeping your word to yourself. Most importantly Is I didn't have balance around that and I hit. I hit a wall in a ceiling because I want to tell myself I don't hit ceilings, right, you know like I don't do that. Someone else might you know, but I don't, yeah, and that's what I told myself and I did over and over and I always reverted back To the same people, places and things and situations and things that brought me down. It was the next worst rock bottom and the worst. So I was the balance and like taking care of yourself. Mind, you always went to the gym, but but really like mentally taking care of yourself because I didn't do that you know, I just know that freaking matters. I'm gonna buy my mom a house on the beach, like that's it. You know that's my care, but I mean yeah, but it, but it helped it, but that you can't make that stuff up, man, I mean that's, that's what it happened. And someone reached out and I didn't want to do it. No, I'll tell you, be honest with you. Like I told them that too, I was like you did, did you like? I mean, if you go back to I don't know if you've ever seen it, but if you haven't, like check it out, because it's a funny story like, if you go to that video it's called let me drown. It is the most explicit, yeah video ever. And I was like, but I thought it was fake at first. Like you know, or NBC, we're looking to do the show. Someone saw it. I just saw your video. They want like, did they really see it? You know, yeah where's?

Speaker 1: 29:17

where's Ashton kutcher? Am I getting punked? What is this?

Speaker 2: 29:20

for sure.

Speaker 1: 29:22

Yeah, or it's a scam or something, something and and that's that's real, though that like that's that's a. I mean I just want to take that right there, what you're saying, because that that wraps up so nicely the fact that like music for you Clearly has been such a cathartic process like and I really like, dude, ten thumbs up. If I had ten thumbs, I've only got two, but two thumbs up with that For keeping all the old material and being able to talk about it, because so many times people just want to show the highlight reel, right, and I think it's really really says a lot about your heart, says a lot about your passion, says a lot about your value system. When you're able to go like yo, you're gonna be here too and you're probably gonna come back and you may go back in because like life is like this, right, it's like it's not, like it's a linear thing. We're not just like on a, on a rocket ship. It's like up back, oh, ten ten steps back, three steps forwards, maybe a sideways little. You know, juke move, but dude, oh f, I just blew my ACL. Oh man, you know, like things like that. So it's really interesting here. And like you're totally, 100% Self-made and you were doing it from the love of just like being cathartic. It's interesting because when we look at the music landscape and especially independent music and artists and Entrepreneurs, any kind of brand, they've got this scarcity mindset, they've got this less and this lack and they're unwilling to look in the mirror like what you were describing. You know the you are the problem, like everything, and that's where Goggins is right, that's where he's right. It's like you can go to hire any coach in the world and you still got to do the push-ups. Bro, like I said that so many times, because we run into it and myself included like there's just those Excuses that get in the way. And when we're talking about the musical landscape and artists with the scarcity mindset, the typical starving artists Would hear these lyrics that I'm about to read to you you might be familiar with, and they would think that's a fairy tale. Like Universal trying to call me up. Like that sounds like BS. Right Now you open the song with you're able to do like it's just like it's so cool. You can do anything you want. Man, I'm manifesting all things good money coming to me, money running through me, tuned into the frequency, the bass keep boom. I mean Dude, when I heard that, I was like this guy knows what's up and that's a track, that's a track, money and how ironic, just hearing your whole story and maybe I wrong, it's not the word, but how, how effing cool does that? Dude? Your You're now cathartic through the stuff that you're experiencing and guess what, guys? It works. So Talk to me, because I think this would be a great spot to to play the track for people that I've ever heard it. But talk to me about how you came up with this song, because I, when I first started seeing this, I was like, oh my god, we got, we got the guy, because I mean with, because, like it's so powerful dude, you tuned this thing to the frequency. Talk to me, walk me through the writing process. Walk me through. How did you learn about this man Like? How did you get to Like writing about manifesting what others would call the woo-woo stuff and then putting it into your music and now making it a Popular thing? Dude like this is great. This is fantastic for for music all around.

Speaker 2: 32:39

Yeah yeah, first I mean, yeah, I mean, and then, kind of like you, just I was I. I knew music for the most part and I understand whatever everyone's in a different place and we can go into the conspiracy route of what they push towards the radio and who puts whatever I'm all for it. I don't, you know, like, and that's great and that for sure happens, but like that's not what I choose to focus my time and energy on. I did it first, you know, because a long time ago. It's like I get it, get in this field and I have to do this within the industry and but like we live in the best time in the age, you don't have to do that, like you can completely Do the same exact thing, be self-maintened, do it. You want to learn? And I feel like I'll have this conversation with a few people when I'm like, oh, because I'm a hundred percent, or I mixed master, produce sound design engineer, sing right, and I do everything I could do it. I could fuck, excuse me, I could make a song in the bathroom and it on the radio, like I'm not boasting, no, I'm just telling you a fact, right? And then some people hear that you're like, well, that's not like the goal, for like everyone doesn't have to do that, that's fine. I'd like you're right, like not everyone has to do that, but I'm here to tell you and to also show you proof that anyone can do it. And if it's what you want and I'm not saying because I also came from the people, places and things that I couldn't trust, the way that I grew up, like because of the situations I put myself in, because of the frequency that I was living, regardless of if I was sad, whatever excuse I wanted to tell myself. So I didn't trust. So I was like, well, how am I supposed to do this and also send this? And I was very needs to be done yesterday, you know. Then, how am I gonna like send something off? And I tried a few things like what sends something off to mix, and it would take like two weeks. I'm like, bro, you know, like that's not what I need to do, this should have been done. So I didn't want, yeah, I didn't want to deal with, I just didn't want to deal with that and that's fine. Everyone works on a different timeline. But again, I'm here to tell my story and I'm not here to try and offend anyone else. These are just the things that I experienced and I want to live this life as fully as possible while I'm here, if what. Like I believe, I also believe we're in a video game. You know just the way it works. It is very game-like, right. So? But yeah, to answer your question, I just I Went through that period of time I touched on a little bit earlier where I was writing about a lot of those, those dark things and yeah, it was true and those are things that I went through, but really, like I was, I Was bringing that back and I was manifesting that same stuff back into my life, even though I Wasn't like living like that anymore. Then I start writing about it consistently, going back mentally to that place. I don't feel how to. Okay, I'll write about it like this, I'll write about like this, and then put it out there and then put the negative frequencies in the music and that's how I was feeling, you know. But then it All started to show up back in my life again same people, places and things and situations, but now, on different coasts and over here and over here, because I was, yeah, I was like, oh my god, I didn't really, I didn't even think, I really even knew it up until like recently. I was like, oh my gosh, wow, that's why that kept happening, because after the like, the manifestation, all the music was like, oh, that's how that happened. That's why I was going through that stuff. I was writing about it. I thought that if I wrote about something like the negative things that I had experienced, that someone else what that also was going through that would also hear it and know that they're not alone. Because when you're going through that stuff, that's the one thing you feel like no one else will understand you and you're alone, which is I'm here to tell anyone that's listening is not the case. You know, and you are not, and there is a life beyond your wildest dreams. It's just making that choice and that decision To start living differently, you know, and start making different choices and decisions, and that could be like the hardest choice and decision within that right.

Speaker 1: 36:08

I do have a question in the heart. When you were expressing like you were feeling it, you're pointing like where were you feeling it somatically, like in your body, where? What was that sensation? When you were going back and writing about all those hard times to try to connect with those people that may feel like they, they were, they were alone, like did you feel that in the body somewhere?

Speaker 2: 36:27

Oh yeah, I mean a hundred percent, in order to like again, I wasn't. I was sitting there and I was writing it myself. I didn't have co co-writers and I was like what do you think is a better word? Like drugs or something like? No, like I? You know that I, that was something that I would have to sit there, I mean like this, and literally think about stories that I was going through, like or had gone through, and be like how does that feel and how could you have to like tie? This is what I did with. Now I feel like this you know, yeah, and because of my feel yeah, because of my feeling like this, I ended up doing that, you know, whatever the storyline of that song is, so I would have to go back there. So, of course, yeah, I mean I would. I would feel that and then you actually you can't help yourself. When you're writing over top of something that I just produced, you're already in that feeling right, but you don't realize you're projecting that negative frequency. She's like oh yeah, I'm writing this even though, like you're at, that's the excuse and that's what's really tricky. And it took me a long time to realize like my brain was just trying to. I couldn't trust it. I couldn't trust it, which is such a scary place to be changed my life. But someone once had told me, like after I kept repeating these things Over and over, right, the definition of consistently doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results, of this insanity. So someone had mentioned they're like you know, you can't trust yourself. Like you, you can no longer trust yourself. You've done this too many times, you fit too many rock bottoms, you've been in too many situations X, y and Z. You're here again. Yeah, you can't, like you're gonna have to do something different and you can't trust what you think the next move should be. I was like what do you mean? Like you're not, you can't. Your brain is like it'll, it'll fake It'll. Like come up with great excuses, but it just wants to see you messed up, miserable and upset for the rest of us. Like why I can't trust myself. Like should I eat soup? Like what should I be doing? Like Emily was that deep. Like I didn't even. I didn't even know myself, that's right. I was like, oh my gosh, because I believe them. It was that one part of my life where I also met that one person. And shout out to that one person. I remember I had been to so many treatment facilities at that point. But I was like I met that one person At that one point in my life when I was like I'm the cause of all this. There was no excuse. I had exhaust every excuse in my life to blame anybody else or any other situation that happened. That's why it didn't happen for me, or whatever the case would be. I exhausted it and then I also met that person at that same time. That's how the universe works. It's like, okay, you're done, bro, you done, yeah. And then I met that person. I was like you can't trust yourself, which is crazy, because I was like, damn, what am I supposed to do? And and and then that, and then that time of vulnerability. It's like I'm just gonna listen to people that have either also been there or that know better than me, you know, because I always thought I knew the best, the best possible choice in way and decision. You know, that's what I thought, but but I did feel it to answer a question. I did feel, feel it holy, you know, which then manifested it back into my life. And then to go back to your question that I don't really think I answered, how I made, how I got into this? Because I started to understand that and I started to listen to people again the friends that I made on the internet, the Ed, my lads, the dr Joe's, all the people that I would listen to. I'm like the David Goggins. Yeah, I was like you know, I was like these are all things, especially dr Joe. What if I Like? Okay, I make all the music and all that I talk about. That's the other thing that really brought this down. Whenever I'm on live or social medias or anything else, I probably should be promoting my music. I mean, yes, I am. If I'm dancing in the street or doing something silly that hopefully will make someone smile happy and the algorithm will like it, because at the end of the day we're at the algorithm swim. But I was having a conversation with my manager and I didn't want to do hip hop because I was like what are people going to say, you know, if I do hip hop, even though that's like the only thing I listen to outside of house music? And I was talking to my manager, charles Chaz, and they were just like what, if you just talk to bro, all you talk about is life. Like when you probably like. I was like, oh yeah, I should probably be talking about promoting my music, but when I go on live or talk about anything else this is all this whole conversation that we're having right now I can't help myself because I love it, I'm so passionate about it and I've seen how much it's changed my life in hopes that it possibly will resonate with someone else and then hopefully change the life. Not because of my words, even like, because I just I just go like, I feel like most of the time it's just like speaking through me. I don't even know what it is. I have so many like outer body experiences where I'm like watching myself have these conversations it's the weirdest thing. But but that's what, that's what it was. I was like, oh, that was my excuse in a positive way. I was like, oh so I could do hip hop. I make, I make some dope beats. You know, it's got to be dope beats. That's what I told myself. It's got to be dope because I don't want to you know if I'm going to talk about manifestation stuff or just like positive, you know positive stuff, it's got to sound hard you know, like you can't be, like now we're manifesting, yeah, we have a saying.

Speaker 1: 41:30

We have a saying in hockey man, it's 10 play. You can't come in. 10 play because you know two fly is real soft on the baby's bottom, but 10 play Wow.

Speaker 2: 41:42

I love that. That's good. I'm going to have to steal that for a lyric, yeah.

Speaker 1: 41:45

That's 100%. Put that writing creds right there. Yeah, yeah, I got you that's. That's the song. We'll do a collab on 10 play.

Speaker 2: 41:56

I love that. That's awesome. I love that. I'm in Okay.

Speaker 1: 42:01

I'm in yeah 100%.

Speaker 2: 42:02

Okay, that's what right now, Don't forget, yeah, I I just that's just kind of what it was. I was like, okay, so I tried. The first thing that I did was too good. I was like how could I start it like affirming positive, you know self, because it took me a long time to get to like like that self love place, Like I, truly like I love myself, like bro, to be able to say, like I never would say that, Definitely would never say it to myself, I wouldn't say it to myself and I for sure as heck would never say that on the internet. You know, because if you're a judgment like, you would be like, oh, he's so narcissistic or condescending, whatever, that like totally totally, but I like it yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I had to sit with that and, um, yeah, but that's that's kind of how it came about. It's like shit, like stop, I mean crap. If I just talked about all the things that you know, if I just talked about all the things that I talk about on lives when I should be talking about music and put that into lyrics and all these things that I helped my life, like wouldn't that be like the best you know, wouldn't that be like the best thing ever, like other people would also, even if they didn't know. Like that's what I want. I wanted to put other people on, even if they didn't understand or know, because it would happen. You know, yeah, it's like it would just happen. You're listening to it and I know that frequency works that way, so I was like, yeah, then then slowly it would bring me, because I just want to spread positivity, you know.

Speaker 1: 43:33

I get it.

Speaker 2: 43:34

Yeah, to help, but that's that's kind of how it came about, and then it just worked. The first one I did it worked the first one. Yeah, and dude, yeah.

Speaker 1: 43:43

And then you found that, then you found that pattern. You're like oh, being myself is actually the key to this success thing that we talk about.

Speaker 2: 43:53

How freaking does that how?

Speaker 1: 43:55

wild, isn't that wild, well, dude? Well, you take a swig there. I think this is a great time to brush up, because you're going to need your vocals the pipes got to be clear for this because I want to let you be the other career that you you didn't know you had, but you're a radio DJ man. I don't know if you know it, but I would love for you to introduce money, because that was the song that did it for for so many, so many musicians that I just popped that into a playlist and be like oh, what's he saying, what's he rapping about? Money, like what is this? And then they started listening to it. And you know your videos, you're always doing this. This is the exact movement that everybody does when they listen to that song, like they'll sit there and they'll just especially in the car. That's because of that hard beat, bro, but seriously, like that's what makes it, bob, right. So I would love to give you an opportunity to introduce that. We'll cut for a couple of minute commercial break and let you drop in on this and you guys can hear, hear, hear Abel Hart introduce his track.

Speaker 2: 44:54

This is Abel Hart and you're here under the radar and this is my song Money. Money coming through me, coming through me, coming through me. I'm manifesting all things guy. Money coming through me, money running through me. Don't enter the frequency. The bass keep it boomin'. Feeling super human. I ain't never loosin' Money coming through me and, I'm honest, keep it movin'. Picking me to basses, put me on the next level. Look at the money coming in. I'm getting funny with it. I broke out the program and I free myself from the place man. I fixed all of it. I just envisioned it. Deliver body universe. It ships in packages. What's possible? Shut up. Some people need to shut up, always getting mad cause I'm working on the come up. But up you really want abundance and all you gotta do is sing along, repeat it. Money coming through me, money running through me. Don't enter the frequency. The bass keep it boomin'. Feeling super human. I ain't never loosin' Money coming through me and I'm honest, keep it movin'. Better to the metal. Money's something special. It gives me the freedom. I don't ever have to settle. Money ain't the devil. Money is the vessel Picking me to basses. Put me on the next level. All I want is freedom. I don't need a reason I keep packing to relax. I don't listen to my demons who you think you foolin', I just keep it movin'. I don't sack. When I get that motivation I be tuned in. Hold up, hold up. I just envision dollars Wanted. I can't imagine. Got me feelin' like a baller Shotcaller just taking what I holler. If you really want abundance, sing along, repeat it. Money coming through me, money running through me. Don't enter the frequency, the bass, keep it boomin'.

Speaker 1: 46:40

Feeling super human I ain't never loosin' Money coming through me and I'm honest, keep it movin' Better to the metal. Money's something special. It gives me the freedom I don't ever have to settle. Money ain't the devil. Money is the vessel Picking me to basses. Put me on the next level. Money coming through me, money coming through me, money coming through me, money coming through me. That's where a lot of musicians are. They feel like they're under the radar and especially just highlighting the track you just heard money. That's one of the things that is definitely under the radar. How do I become successful? Because they've got this starving artist mentality. They've got this thing with money. They've got this attachment. That, dude, you had to just grind it out. Like you said, you had to grind it out. You had to keep on going. You had to keep on working all parts of you, mentally, physically, I mean, that's another thing. You keep in shape. How does that translate from one area of your life to keep in shape, with overcoming that resistance that you might feel as an artist?

Speaker 2: 47:50

Yeah, I mean that just allows me to have. I knew that from the start of doing any of this, I knew that I had to have my physical activity, just not. You know, I have this conversation with people it's like I don't need a six pack or I don't want a six pack. It's not what it's about. Like what it does for your mental is. It will blow your mind, you know, and I knew that I needed that. I couldn't cut that element out of my life. For one, I loved it, even when I didn't love it. I never wanted to go, but I loved the effect produced. Right For talking about the effect produced, I knew how much it benefited my life and drive for everything outside of the gym or training, whatever the case may be. But yeah, I think a lot of people also just think that they want you know this or they see stuff online, you know, and they think they want it until they realize all the things that entail. And I think a lot of people are definitely meant for it. You know I've struggled with this over the last few months a lot, I'll tell you, because for the longest time, my whole life, and that's where I'm at like now, going back and forth to this, because I talk about this stuff so much and I've just had such my whole life, a firm belief that anyone could get this, anyone Like this, like anyone, and that's why I try and speak to anyone and everyone and just over the course of definitely this last year and more so, putting this out on the internet and the things that I talk about, you just like realize, like, like I don't want to think that not everyone could just freaking get this. I believe everyone has a purpose here on planet Earth. I totally believe this, and I'm not speaking on just being an artist, like I'm talking about like getting this as being a human and internal happiness and that's like that's that's the evolution of where we all want to be. But, yeah, if that's where you always want to be, it's always in front of you and you're forever chasing it. So if that's the case, it's like well then, you have to live with that and understand that. The moment is where all to me is, you're like oh my gosh, there's so much information. Then freaking rewind it, listen to it, slow it down, type it in the Google, find someone else that could translate it better to you. You know, like I. These things are super important in life and that's the grind, like what we're having now, like doing this right now. I see this all like. This is the meat, this conversation, the things we're talking about, the journey I'm not worried about like I'm sure there's other things, like I'm sure you got 20 other things to do after this, as do I, and the next thing, but that's like, I'm not worried about that. I'm here now like I'm enjoying this one and I'm excited for whatever's next. You know, I don't know, but I also. But what I do know is the unknown, like the everything that's in the other, on the other side of fear. And the unknown is a life beyond my wildest dreams. It always has been anytime I took that leap of faith. Like I said, I didn't even want to do song land. I thought first I thought it was fake, and then my mom also was like, if you don't freaking do this, you're not coming home. So shout out my dudes. But I was, I was scared man, like I was like, oh my gosh, I've never performed in my entire life and I'm going to do it on national television. And how are they going to edit this? Like because I already edited a video. So I'm like you can edit a million different ways, right, a new found editor. So, right, all these things which I now use today, anything you see is edited, like I edit everything and I love it, you know, and it's a balance of all of it. So, thanks to ask me for going through that, right, but I didn't want to do that because I had so much fear. What's going to happen? How do they go to do what? If I don't want to? It's going to be on national television. What do people go to think? And it was like also like, oh, it's a 50-50 shot. I work my whole life to do all these things and this is like the ultimate decision of like yes, you're meant for this and this is for you, or no, it's not. You know all these things, but I just like no option, no choice. And I definitely, externally, didn't have no option, no choice. And I was like, in a positive way, I'm just like effort, you know, went there, they put me in that week, they were supposed to move out, put me up in the hotel to start shooting. You can't even make that up out of fear. And I was also 14s, my number 14, my birthday 714, 7-7-14, spend my lucky number my whole life. I was in number 14 room there that they put me up in, which is crazy, and all these things started showing and it changed my life, everything. Every single day that I was there and filming, I was scared, like you wouldn't even believe, like, imagine, and it changed my life, you know. So the one thing going back to what I was saying the one thing that I do know is everything on the other side of fear and of the unknown, like I don't know what's going to happen. I'm fearful of that, which is totally valid and I understand. But everything on the other side of that is a life beyond your wildest dreams. It always is. And we're talking about positive stuff here, right, I don't want people to twist my words. Well, if you go do something super negative and you're fearful of going to like, you know, like we're being pretty straightforward here, right? So it's changed my life. I, how do I? How do you have that? Someone understand they have to. Like, what are you willing to sacrifice? Like it won't be like that forever, you know, like, again, I did it for too long, I was a monster for too long and then I realized like, oh, there's a point where, then, you have to understand how to tame it, because things happen in my life, because I was a monster. Preparation meets opportunity. This happened Now. I need to keep being like this. I just drove myself into a wall. I needed to understand it. Okay, you're here. You're here, bro, like understand where's your best time spent. You know time management. What are you doing? Work smarter, not harder, yeah.

Speaker 1: 53:15

And even, even even to that too. You know, like so many people do talk about time management and one thing that I changed. Just one word on time management rather than time, because that's, you know, we could, we could be here all day with if that's real or not energy management. Like, where are you spending your energy? Are you putting that into the people? And like, when we talk about nutrition, which is, I'm sure, a staple in you and that's one of the three core pillars of the music fit method is, is your movement, your mindset, your nutrition, right? And music kind of wraps it all up in a nice little gift, right To keep you present. Right, and the nutrition, it's what we consume, it's not just the food that we eat, it's all. Like, where are you spending time? What are you listening to? You mentioned some really great points earlier. You're listening to the Spenzas, you're listening to everybody and anybody shetty, and you've got Ed Malette and you've got, I mean, have you have you? Have you dove much into Paul? Check, no, dude, yeah, I'm going to hook you up with Paul. Okay, that was what really got me into. Yeah, on the very bottom, I'm not sure if anybody in the audience who are watching. Eat, move and be healthy was the book that changed my life in the strength conditioning world. Yeah, because for so long I had Brody syndrome. Go to the gym, work your ass off, grind it out, grind it out, grind it out, very, very Yang All. Go, go, go, go, go, go. No off button. What a lot of what you're talking about, and what I found is that that contraction, when we down regulate, we can expand, and that's where that that awesomeness is. And I see it in nutrition, I see it in movement, and the way you are in one thing is the way you are in very, very many, if not almost all, of the other areas of your life. So your discipline, your work ethic, everything that shows up in your music and the point I want to make here is like your rituals, your habits, they are directly related to your content, your branding. You're so consistent with the stuff. Everything looks spot on. Is that like what walk me through? Like a day in life, typical able heart date? I know he's not always just dancing around in the streets doing these things. What's the day like? How do you like to, how do you like to get up? What's what? Are some of these like top secrets that people could start to maybe look at and adopt if they aren't in the place that they want to be in their life.

Speaker 2: 55:45

Yeah, I mean, man, you said it earlier, you know, and it took me a long point to get there. But what you said was you know, I'm just being me and that's crazy, that's amazing. I have to stop saying like that's crazy, that's unreal. It's so real, it's absolutely so real that's the key, you know, man, and and that's really what it is like. I'm just putting out my true, authentic self and I fully feel that and and I really am that way, the things that I put put out on the Internet, I, because for the longest time I would hold that back. I'm just because we all have different like volumes of our personality, right, but I would always very much like hold that baby because like it's too much. Or my whole life I was like, by the way, I'll say for usually say it on the podcast, but I'm not on anything you know like.

Speaker 1: 56:39

I was very high. I had that as a question, like I'm sure you get that, because I get that all the time. Like, do what do you want? Are you? Are you cocaine? Is it? Are you a math hat? Like what is this? Like you're insane, like what is going on. I'm like no, I'm literally. That is the energy of life, bro.

Speaker 2: 56:53

Like right, thank you, yeah, I get it all, yeah, and I think it's like, and I always try and to have empathy too for people that are saying certain things, because I understand that her people, her people, you know, and some people saying these things I have no awareness, you know, so I know what it would be. It wouldn't be doing like any justice to someone else, let alone myself, to get upset or to be like bro, like you don't even freaking understand, like just go sit in your, sit in the corner. You know, you know as much as like at times, especially some of the things that you see or I hear, I'm just like, yeah, but but I understand, you know that a lot of. Yeah, so that's why I do, and I do think it's important and I think it's it would be a disservice for me not to talk about these things that have helped my me in my life and so much that I talk about them because I just create this really not crazy, but it is wild to think about. There are so many people on this earth that don't have any of this awareness and that's a scary place to be because I was there, and it's a scary place to be because you just think like that's the way life is. You know, this just happens to me and that's what it is. Of course, you know things are going good. I grew up with that mentality. My dad would always say I shot it to my dad. I love my dad. It's not bad about him. He grew up right. We're only products of our past self, people, places and things and we're past programming right, yeah, and I try to have these conversations with them Now. But you know he knows when anything good would happen and you'd be like, oh, it's bound to be something bad. You know, oh, it makes me even to say it now, man, that makes me feel so like, like something bound to happen. Of course was just going good and this happened, oh my gosh. And so it puts that right into your brain, like and then you actually understand how manifestation, frequency and living that actually works, and believe that this is a video game like that. Then you actually project that and then you're receiving it back. So it's law of attraction, so it's literally a law.

Speaker 1: 58:58

Here's the. Here's an interesting point. If you're open to play a game, you seem like a phone guy. So the thing that really Tipped, like it tilted the scales for me is that I had a habit of catastrophizing problems. There was always a problem and that sounds like I mean, that's the thing with our folks is generation is that they grew up in a very different time where it's like the things that we experience and like the open mindedness of like oh, but you can create everything that doesn't exist in their world, right. So Getting them on board with that was very, very difficult and I noticed that trick trickled into my language and the easiest hack is like, if you think about it, your thoughts like this is the kind of stuff I teach with. Like performance mindset is that your thoughts are really Articulated through your language, both the words that you use out in the words that you tell yourself inside, like the story right, pile up all of those thoughts Into a big stack of pancakes here and you got a belief system. That belief system carries out your outcome or your actions. So if you're unhappy about where you're at, you got to examine the belief system that you're subscribed to and then you can change it radically, practically through the words that you use. And one thing that caught me when my coach first put this on me goes All right, you got a real problem with write this down and it's this is the thing the pen abracadabra man. You got to write this stuff down and the paper. Something about it can go dude, because the words matter, right. So Write down and anybody listening, you guys feel free to do this and if you feel like it, go for it. I got a real problem with blank, write that down, right. And when I did that I was in a time like I was constantly getting speeding tickets. So I just I thought, just like logically, I'm like I got a real problem with speeding Real fast. I was like Ricky Bobby, all day, man, I get laser tickets, I get. I got speed trapped so many friggin times here in Calgary, like I know, I know all the spots right. So I write that down. He's like OK, so then we do this is group, and then we go through it. And he goes OK, read that out, breathe, how do you feel? Oh man, feels real shit. Like right in here, right in my heart, right in my throat, in my heart, and I'm like that doesn't feel good. I can tell you that, okay, cool, on a scale one to ten, how high is it? 10? High, low is one, like eight? Man, he's a cool. What does that remind you of? Like this time and I went way back into this like old, old story, the point being, that'll be for another time, but the point being is OK, cool, so we get through all that and he's like cross, one word out. I want you to take that pen back. Cross out problem, replace it with opportunity. I got a real opportunity with speeding tickets and at first I'm like you know, if you got a dog, my dog does this all the time. Bwoop, that was me, it's like what. And it totally shifted the way because, again, the reticular activating system, what you're talking about, a lot of traction, reticular activating system, the way you are. If you're looking for the problem, you're gonna find it every single time, just like when you start saying you're crazy, oh, it's so crazy, you're gonna think that that's crazy. No, do you know the definition of weird man? Like the etymology of weird, the word weird? Why do we use weird? For guys like you and me? I'm sure you've been called weird before. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:02:32

Yeah, yeah, I'm curious. You know the actual no? Yeah, tell me.

Speaker 1: 1:02:34

Yeah, dude, it comes from an old English tradition, w-y-r-d, which means fulfilling higher purpose. How wild is that? So what they did is, you know, the case of the hero. As soon as the hero starts to rise up, these people achieving their higher purpose like you, my friend, doing what you wanna do, you're gonna be called weird because you're doing exactly what you put on earth to do, and these people, instead of supporting, they're trying to grab your coat tails and pull you down, get you down, back down to this level, because they're afraid of jumping through those hoops that they have to do in order to find their fulfillment. It's way easier to just make you look like the bad guy. That's weird, right? So when we think about it.

Speaker 2: 1:03:20

I mean, that's on the definition of that, and me finding that out is phenomenal.

Speaker 1: 1:03:24

Homie, yeah, dude, like there. That's the second track. We got Ten-Five and Weird, Weird, Weird but with a lot you know weird. Yeah, dude weird.

Speaker 2: 1:03:36

Mm, mm, mm mm.

Speaker 1: 1:03:37

I love it. I love it. Get your mom on the guitar. Get another melody for mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, we got both of them on the guitar. I'll talk to mom Dude on that note. I showed my mom that I'm like mom, why aren't we doing this? Like what'd she say? She goes. I'm like I think we got a mom track here. I'm gonna take mom here we go do it. I mean for weird, because she was. She was actually. Oh, that's funny. I just thought of that. She was one of the first people that ever said you can be weird, like that was like. That was a staple from my mom because, like she would be quirky. My dad was always right, but my mom was like boo, boo, boo, like she would just be a goofball, like everything I got. And then I later learned that my dad did too, but he couldn't present it that way. But they were both weirdos. What were weirdos, you know? So like what if we had more people embracing their weirdo Dude?

Speaker 2: 1:04:33

Or it would be brighter man.

Speaker 1: 1:04:35

Tell you that that's what I'm saying. All right, I wanna play one more game here for you and then we'll wind things down. I know you got lots of things going on. I got lots of things going on. I wanna play Hot or Not? Okay, I'm gonna play one game and then I'm gonna ask you a random question. Okay, Hot or Not? Okay, Fanny pack, Hot or Not?

Speaker 2: 1:04:54

Oh, for you, For you.

Speaker 1: 1:04:56

Yeah, dude, oh for me, yeah, dude. For you, hot or Not, you gonna wear a fanny pack, I sure just said to each throne, you know, yeah, a fanny pack.

Speaker 2: 1:05:07

I don't know if I've ever a fanny pack. I could rock one. Yeah, Hot, yeah, you definitely.

Speaker 1: 1:05:11

Okay, that's what I'm thinking. Okay, well, this one's obvious Mustache, moustache.

Speaker 2: 1:05:15

Mm, of course, Of course, I don't know how long it'll be here.

Speaker 1: 1:05:20

but how about frosted tips, hot or Not?

Speaker 2: 1:05:23

Frosted tips. These are one of the things like this Definitely Hot, Definitely Hot.

Speaker 1: 1:05:28

Okay, I'm sure I know the answer here. Nipslips in the gym. You know those giant?

Speaker 2: 1:05:33

oh, my gosh, that's my nipples are always out. I just got in trouble for it. What'd you say?

Speaker 1: 1:05:38

I just got in trouble for it the other day Like you gotta put. That's what I said. I think I know the answer here, dude.

Speaker 2: 1:05:46

I get in trouble for it all the time. But you know what's great about that? At first I was upset. We talked about this stuff. So I was at the gym and I wear the same shirt that I wear for all, like the whisper stuff. I just love wearing that shirt, you know, it's great shirt and I watch it every time and I go back and I wear the same thing but my nipples are out, you know, all the time and, yeah, every day. And then they said something to me about it, or so the first guy came up to me and he got really mad at me, you know, and I was like whoa bro, like you know, I almost got like a little upset, you know. I was like he's like you gotta put it on. So I was like, all right, I'll be chill. And then I went back again. I didn't put it on, I just like not intentionally to make anyone mad, I just forgot. And someone else came up to me and said something. But then I met that guy and I've been trying to film more gym footage. The point of the story I've been trying to film more motivational gym footage, but we can't find a gym To like film it. It's very difficult for some reason. And the second guy that said something I was like he was very nice and he actually ran the thing there. Long story short, he's like, yeah, if you want to come in after you, you guys could film. You know, you just can't wear your shirt like this now, but you can let your nipples fly after 10,.

Speaker 1: 1:06:55

You know he's giving you free access to gym after hours. Let those babies fly.

Speaker 2: 1:07:01

That's great dude, how about?

Speaker 1: 1:07:05

crop tops, then Crop tops.

Speaker 2: 1:07:07

Oh, I love crop tops. I'm trying to yeah my crop top boys.

Speaker 1: 1:07:11

Where's your crop top today?

Speaker 2: 1:07:12

Like, as expected, as half expecting Well if I had it on, then it makes the sitting look weird.

Speaker 1: 1:07:18

But I tried to go to it.

Speaker 2: 1:07:20

Yeah, it does. You have one on right now?

Speaker 1: 1:07:22

No, I wish here we can make it though Like yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:07:26

I can't believe this happened.

Speaker 1: 1:07:29

I don't know what happened oh come on. Dude, what's the go to exercise when you're nip slipping it up in the gym? What's the favorite?

Speaker 2: 1:07:39

It's a good one. I love abs and I love chest more than anything. But recently, recently, I do love abs and chest. Recently, biceps are always. They definitely are my favorite, but that's because of the easiest Like they're just exhaust, you know, and I don't lift more than 15 pounds. I just I'm very lightweight. More reps, I mean not when I do other things, but yeah, I'm very lightweight. More reps, you know, because I want to be more cut, because I went down to like the other bulk route and I just didn't like how I felt.

Speaker 1: 1:08:12

Right yeah, do you ever do any like Olympic lifting or any complex like that?

Speaker 2: 1:08:17

Ooh, you talk about like more, like legs and actually like squat and put. No, I haven't what I need to do, and I was just saying this to my manager. I was like I need to. I think I might soon we'll see maybe after I leave Miami or while I'm still here, get a trainer, you know. Yeah yeah, Like obviously I know what I'm doing at the gym, but I just I think that would be so much like next level, you know.

Speaker 1: 1:08:40

Then you, have someone there.

Speaker 2: 1:08:43

So yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:08:44

Look at all your best coaches. All your best coaches have a coach Like. That's the thing it's like mentorship is a big thing, right, and you don't even know it, but you're mentoring so many other people, right, like, just that's the interesting thing with mentorship is, oftentimes we don't even know it, like sometimes I'm sure you get like these DMs and people are like yo, you changed my life with XYZ, you know, and people will be like whoa, so like, imagine how much more proficient you could be. You're already at a level. Imagine what? That next level, because it's like the goalpost move. You know, right, like you're already here, what's 1% more? Look like, if you're 98%, what's 1% more? And that's what I'm after. That's what I'm after, dude, I know right, mustache, dude, I can see it. I can see it. That was ridiculous. Do you have a very like one serious question, one not so serious question here, one of your fans that was very interested in the Q&A section. I drew one question. So thank you, beth Ann, for the question she asked is does he freestyle? And I didn't have the answer. I was like you're gonna have to tune in Freestyle rap.

Speaker 2: 1:09:59

No, my manager wouldn't let it happen. Are you talking about rapping like freestyle rapping?

Speaker 1: 1:10:04

Yeah, yeah, freestyle rap.

Speaker 2: 1:10:06

It's a very. It's a good question, because I've never heard that question before, cause I also don't consider myself a rapper. I don't even know what I consider myself at this point. I was thinking that I was also a rapper, I don't know, yeah, but no, I used to. I wouldn't humiliate myself though, but I used to, and that's why I think, when I told, when I told my manager, I was like bro, I think I'm good, like you know, I think the next wave is like hip hop and I'm gonna do that he was like, oh God, you know, I feel like maybe he'll tell you this, but maybe he won't, but at first cause he, cause he remembers how we used to just mess around when we were kids, you know, mess around and do hip hop, and I'd be like what's going on? I'm putting money in things Like I would make a joke out of it, you know, cause I was too insecure so I didn't want to like, cause they were like spit, try, like spitting bars and stuff, and I would be way too insecure to like really be serious about it, so I'd make a joke of it. So that's all he could think of. So, to answer the question, unless it was a joke, but I wouldn't trust what comes out of my subconscious, so no, that's pretty, that's safe.

Speaker 1: 1:11:08

I have a funny story on that too. It sounds like we were like parallels because the first time I ever got up on stage people understood that like my go-to karaoke song is it's tricky run DMC. So people assumed that I could rap. And I do now. And it took a lot of like getting over that, that confidence in the self-consciousness. And one time we were opening up for this one band who's like phenomenal freestyler and he just drops like on anything. And he calls me up and he does this medley Like I've seen their group. We were opening for him and he calls me. We understand Noel's drummer, mike, he's quite the rapper. We want to invite him up on stage and I'm like, oh sure, this is gonna be so cool. And I thought I was just gonna say like they were playing Sublime with Fresh Prince and they mixed the two so he drops in. I think y'all know this West Philadelphia born and raised Playground and exactly right. And we keep on going and then, surprise, he drops. He's like all right, band, all right, cool down, cool down. We're gonna see what this cat's got. And he puts me on the spot, freestyle with me and he does like Eminem eight mile on me and it was hard. I ended up rapping about my Nintendo hat that I was wearing, very similar to you, like I. Just I had to make it funny because I was like, completely, I'm like, oh, I have no idea what to do, like I just froze.

Speaker 2: 1:12:30

I was like yo my name's Mike.

Speaker 1: 1:12:33

I got my Nintendo hat and my Matt Good teacher Boy like it was bad and everybody's like what was that? Like they were just killing themselves laughing because I made it at least funny. But oh my goodness, I can relate no freestyle in this career.

Speaker 2: 1:12:48

You don't trust the subconscious. Yeah, I know, right Like it's, it's wow.

Speaker 1: 1:12:53

Yeah, yeah, If I were to like. What are your thoughts on time travel? Is that cool?

Speaker 2: 1:13:02

I mean, I'm open to anything now, man. I just feel like any of it's possible. You know who freaking knows. Cool, I had to say it's probably real to answer your question Probably.

Speaker 1: 1:13:11

Okay, well, I've got two questions for you on time travel, then, and then we'll wind it down right here. If I were able to take you back time travel style, to like land before time, like dinosaurs, could you eat a whole dinosaur if I gave you like a week?

Speaker 2: 1:13:31

Oh, that's the most random question I've ever been asked, but I think I could. I mean, it would depend on how hungry I was. I feel like before I took the trip to try and travel, I'd have to make sure I was prepared right, and I didn't eat and I just did like a nice fasting, you know, and I set that up and then I traveled, depending on how long it would take to go in between the time travels. Yeah, I think I'd be pretty good, like a week you're giving me a week to eat a dinosaur. I mean, how big is the dinosaur?

Speaker 1: 1:13:59

you know that's up to you Like it could be a little guy.

Speaker 2: 1:14:02

A lot of people don't get to go to the area, though. Do I have to kill it? Do I have to kill a dinosaur?

Speaker 1: 1:14:07

You gotta kill a dinosaur, bro. That's up to you oh damn All right.

Speaker 2: 1:14:10

So it's up to me From the choice of dinosaur that I'm thinking like, size-wise, you know, while still being a challenge, but not too like just a little guy, I could do it Great answer.

Speaker 1: 1:14:22

And I also. I remember catching you on another interview You've got. You were talking about furniture. You were talking about a particular piece of furniture. I know you love your stuff, right? If we were able to like, let's say, we could ship back your favorite piece of furniture to any point in time, where do you think that thing would be right now?

Speaker 2: 1:14:45

Oh, probably in my bedroom It'd be a couch. I've never. This is the first time moving out to Miami that I've slept in a bed. That sounds silly, that's right. Like in a decade. I never yeah, I never sleep on beds, I sleep on the floor. I said very, david Goggins, just because it was uncomfortable. You know it was uncomfortable and I didn't want to be comfortable. I wanted to get comfortable, getting uncomfortable. And if I slept in a bed, then I want to sleep in. And I'll tell you what I'm about to get rid of that freaking bed that I paid whatever for and I just I thought it was good at first. I was like yeah, you know like I was, but my freaking back hurts, you know. So like, so that's your question. I would ship back the couch that I enjoyed sleeping the most on, which was like a rickety old couch, and I would ship it here and I'd put it in my bedroom and there would be no bed, but it would just be a couch. It would look so weird, but it'd be awesome.

Speaker 1: 1:15:37

That's amazing, I love it. And on your note, on your back is it like low back, still Like that?

Speaker 2: 1:15:43

Oh, it is my lower back. Maybe that is because of that. I don't. I mean, I guess it would have to be, but it could be a lot of things, man, it could be a lot of things.

Speaker 1: 1:15:50

You know the Chakras right, the Chakra system. It's an interesting thing the way your body holds somatic stress from.

Speaker 2: 1:15:57

Yeah, for sure I definitely don't work out my. I need to start working my back out more. I definitely don't.

Speaker 1: 1:16:02

I'm telling you Olympic lifting man, Get some dead lifts going. Rock those, rock those deads, Get those hammies engaged.

Speaker 2: 1:16:07

Oh no, I'm not a fan of legs because I already feel like I have like man legs. I wish I had chicken legs. If I had chicken legs, I would do it. Oh no, I wouldn't. No, if I had chicken legs I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it either way is what I'm saying because I don't have chicken legs. I have like manly legs and I don't like. I want chicken ones, you know.

Speaker 1: 1:16:29

This is been a while, brother. Thank you so much for your time here. What's next for you, Abelhardt? What is on the horizon, dude? What's you got cooking?

Speaker 2: 1:16:41

Definitely everything. Well, all the stuff that we just so a big thing that is like super, super important to me in building and we've seen like just be phenomenal for everyone else, is. We just started a community. It's called heartfamcom, so all the stuff that pretty much throughout this whole podcast that we just spoke on, just like how can I make a place? Because it's very tricky, especially as the algorithm and some things that you can say and you can't say. Plus, you don't know who each video that you make is it gonna reach everyone that potentially wants to hear that message? So it's like why can't? And some things I just can't say, which is crazy. I can't like say bio or some of these things, just like why can't I say that? Or websites, cause they don't wanna draw traffic off this platform, and I understand that as a business, but as, like, what I'm trying to help provide and like talk about doesn't do any service to like me or anybody else that potentially it could help. So we built this platform it's called heartfamcom where it has everything. We do Unreleased music every single week. We have exclusive merge drops. We're filming, just like we're doing podcasts here. We have specific exclusive podcasts just for heartfamcom and we're doing giveaways monthly. Last week, everyone's been seriously like incredible as far as just like I don't like fans, supporters Everyone's been phenomenal. We were doing a giveaway last week on heartfamcom and it was like we can't just do one, so we had to do like three of them, which is so cool to be able to be it a place where you know we could do stuff like that, and I really want to grow it continuously, keep growing it in the platform and then all the things that I talk about, plus a ton of BTS. You know BTS that I've never put on the internet.

Speaker 1: 1:18:21

Like boy shorts kind of BTS.

Speaker 2: 1:18:24

Just, I mean, I don't even know some stuff, that some shorts, Just yeah, after boy shorts, I wouldn't doubt it. I used to, I used to. I used to run around with my sister used to call me Chucky chicken legs. I don't know why. I probably had chicken legs. I wonder what happened to them. This is why you don't like you got this story in your head, holy moly. It comes out. That's probably true, that's what my sister, but she was telling me a positive. She was positively. She was saying that she was saying Chucky chicken legs. She used to call me Chucky and Chucky chicken legs. So therefore I had chicken legs and I used to run around like this and I just have my pants pulled up. But that's crazy. Now I think I don't have chicken legs. I don't know, Maybe that'll change the point being. There may be BS like that. What else was I going to say? I mean it's, but everything that I talk about we just had a conversation about over this was like how can, how can I provide as much value and everything be in one place that potentially someone may not see somewhere else? There's things that I'm just not going to post anywhere else, all in one place. And plus, Abraham Hicks has been a huge game changer for me as well, being able to post a lot of these things like personally. These are the things that have helped me and I've saved up all of these videos. I have so much stuff and I'm just like it doesn't make even. It doesn't even make sense for me to put some of this stuff out. Anyone that's on this wave or is learning to grow as a human being or evolve as an individual, whatever the case may be, or potentially also, just like I said, there's a bunch of music on there that's unreli-, that's not put out anywhere else, or new drops before stuff comes out. Everything is exclusive in this community. So so, yeah, there was. That's to answer your question.

Speaker 1: 1:20:02

That's what's going on, man.

Speaker 2: 1:20:04

Yeah, that's what's going on and building that platform, as well as just the unknown. Like I'm like all these things be happening, bro. You know, like I just let it let it flow. You know, let it flow and let it come in. I'm receiving it, I'm ready for it all and I'm also ready for the unknown and all of it.

Speaker 1: 1:20:18

It's exciting, you know dude, I do, I do. You've been a huge inspiration to both my artistic journey as a musician, but also just as a human dude like you're just a great vibe. I'm sure we're down in Miami or making videos together. This has been an absolute blast, right One. One final thing here, though. I would love to know what. I guess two parts, what? What do you want to be remembered for?

Speaker 2: 1:20:46

Oh, what do I want to be remembered for? I'm having as big of an impact as possible on people's lives in a positive way, you know, and being able to yeah, I mean, that's pretty much as simple as that. That I was. While I was here, I had that, and there's a legacy to be able to continue. So it's trying to. It's not trying, it's building these other avenues and things of support for others to provide as much value as possible to others, to build that. So it'll be here further and way longer than I will, you know love it.

Speaker 1: 1:21:16

Yeah, You're planting the, planting the trees. I'm sure you've heard this. Hey, the expression planting the trees that you know you're not going to have the, the access to the shade Dude. What a longevity game. I love that. And for anybody out there, what's your best kept secret to success for all those indie artists out there trying to get going.

Speaker 2: 1:21:34

Getting out of your own way. That's it, man. I mean it's like 98% of it, 99. It's almost 100%.

Speaker 1: 1:21:45

It'd be 100% if we have mustache.

Speaker 2: 1:21:49

That's true. Yeah, I just did it because I was like I'll never do it, I'll probably get judged for it, so it'll be cool. We're stepping into new evolution of you, man. That's why I said to myself in the mirror I love it.

Speaker 1: 1:21:57

So my big takeaways are I got to get a mustache or we're going to write you a right to bops. We got 10 ply and weird and everybody. Get out of your own way. You are your biggest, your own biggest critic, and you can actually be the, the eternal rockstar if you want it right. Get out of your own way. Love it, abel heart. Thank you so much for your time, your space and your energy, brother. It's been an absolute blast.

Speaker 2: 1:22:21

You too as well, man, I appreciate you having me.